what do you think?

[warriorrider]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2006-POLARIS-PREDATOR-500-E-QUAD-BIKE-BLACK_W0QQitemZ230161569436QQihZ013QQcategoryZ1844 9QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Looks great Nige, it is not fully road legal though, the Troy Lee is not the homologated model so has to have SVA to be fully legal, this one will not pass the SVA examination because;

The standard Predator lights do not comply with the standrads required

The indicators are not sited correctly as required

The rear brake caliper is the standard one so has not been modified to have a parking brake so I would guess the brakes are not linked as required

I would not imagine it is limited to 15KW power output and dyno`d .

These are just the obvious things, there may be more .


You could possibly carry out the mods yourself (or with my help) if you could get the parts cheap enough, you need to ring someone like Exeter Quads to ask what the requirements are for the parking brake because I believe they are different on the homologated model to the Troy Lee, the homologated parking brake is hydraulic whereas I think the SVA would have to be cable (not sure about this) for the Troy Lee .
Its one of those quads where someone has put lights and indicators on and registered it as PLG then called it road legal where it is clearly not .
The crunch comes when the MOT is due and they check the DVLA system and see it is not SVA`d, I would guess this is why they are selling it .

[warriorrider]

Its a good job you know what your looking at i'll give it a miss.

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It would not be a bad idea to ask a dealer a few questions because most of the equipment is already fitted and just need altering, what is not on the quad could be bought online, dont give up mate because you will find most quads for sale are not SVA`d .

[NJK]

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Your not correct on all your facts apart from the brake has not been modified to have a parking brake. But you missed the most obvious its not a Troy Lee.

[admin]

yeah , yeah, *cough* i noticed that right off. :)

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Hi NJK, it says Troy Lee on the listing, the headlights on the Pred as standard are not far apart enough, nor are the indicators which need to be a certain distance off the centre line of the quad, the power does need to be restricted to 15KW and certified on a Dyno to pass an SVA .
This information is in an atricle in Quad magazine April 2007 edition where they had an expert write about the SVA requirements for quads .
I also rang Exeter Quads to confirm all these details when I was thinking of buying a quad from them .
My Pred is the homlogated version so I would assume it is all correct .

Is your Pred SVA`d NJK ?

[NJK]

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They sold me mine and to get over the lights you bolt it in the middle just for the test once it's been SVA'd off it comes.

The indicators are fine too, they are in the same place as my friends T.L.D. which came from guess where.

It may say Troy Lee but anyone with a T.L.D will tell you straight away it the wrong suspension on it to be a T.L.D Pred.

Im not trying to be a rappey I just no what I know.

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Hi Nige

Are you suggesting someone is selling a Pred under false pretences ;), this SVA business is very bewildering when buying a quad, I had different dealers telling me different things, VOSA are the correct people to advise and they told me what I state on here, which more or less was the same as that article in Quad .
It seems daft that Polaris do a homologated Pred but the Troy Lee has to be Sva`d instead, it would not cost them any more to homo than the Pred .

[NJK]

It's the old grey tape issue I have a SVA certificate and it will probably have to go back to them for a MOT but who cares.

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It is an important issue for people who want to buy a used quad, Warrior is having the same problem, that Pred for sale on ebay is a 55 plate so MOT soon, if it is not SVA`d then it may fail so he will have to spend a wad of cash to get it through the SVA (on top of the purchase price), until you have bought the quad you dont really know what is up to standard and how much it will cost to do so .
Good to see you have gone down the SVA route NJK, I would hope you left the restrictor plate in place :D.

[catmandoes]

SVA'd Bikes dont need a restrictor plate.

Homolagated need a permement restrictor i.e a plate.

SVA's can have a Tempory Restrictor, i.e a screw limiting the throttle movment. !!!!!!!

( or so i am lead to believe)


Another stupid regulation !!

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The article in Quad April 2007 and Vosa state that a permanent restrictor should be fitted to SVA quads prior to dyno certification, this restriction should also be tamper proof ,

[quadsuk.net]

It is an important issue for people who want to buy a used quad, Warrior is having the same problem, that Pred for sale on ebay is a 55 plate so MOT soon, if it is not SVA`d then it may fail so he will have to spend a wad of cash to get it through the SVA (on top of the purchase price), until you have bought the quad you dont really know what is up to standard and how much it will cost to do so .
Good to see you have gone down the SVA route NJK, I would hope you left the restrictor plate in place :D.

as far as i know they do not check the restrictor on an mot.

if you go on our site or quadheaven and ask bouncy cheque he does mot,s on quads so he should be able to help you

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They do not check that on MOT tests but to get the SVA you have to provide a dyno certificate to prove the power is no more than 15KW (20hp) .

[NJK]

Also how do Quadzilla get away with thier parking brake set up?

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There are so many grey areas arent there, as you know the QZ park brake is cable operated from the front brake lever whereas the Polaris homolog is hydraulic from the front brake lever, both systems work the rear caliper .
What we could do with is an up to date list of the exact requirements to pass the SVA examinations, this will help people wanting to buy a used non SVA quad and eliminate grey areas .
There is now a section for SVA and other road legal stuff .

[catmandoes]

Well my Quadzilla handbrake was a mechanical cable brake. I THINK that thats what the uk law stipulates.

Foot brake was linked brakes to all 3 disks.

One thing for sure, the legal requirements are very confused and open to interpretation. I think over time they will get clearer. This may however not be to our advantage. Im waiting for when they issue a statment syaing that quads DEFINIATLY need a front number plate. Im sure this is only a matter of time.

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Danny, any chance we can move all this SVA stuff into the right section to keep it all together, cheers

[catmandoes]

Done . moved and a redirect in place for 5 days